Comments on: The Hyperlocal Advertising Business Model – an Illusion?

By: ts

ts — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 03:04:58 +0000

http://www.offeretti.com is a great site for hyperlocal advertising for businesses.

By: Patrick Kitano

Patrick Kitano — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 19:35:21 +0000

Gabe, I think big box national advertisers – banking, Home Depot, etc. – will have a problem with hyperlocal advertising models because they don’t scale well and may need regional or even neighborhood customization. Niche advertisers like publishers may see venues that specifically target a literary readership like ReadingLocal is a different story, but you’ll still need some traffic numbers to sell them.

ReadingLocal can work as a multi-blog platform by city as you’re developing but the challenge is in finding and maintaining the content providers. There are many options for writers to post content – Examiner.com, their own blog – and they may demand a pre-existing audience. You can position ReadingLocal as an intimate community of readers, but it may put a lid on the online traffic numbers you would require for advertisers.

These are just my pragmatic thoughts on how to build a niche hyperlocal site that gets traffic, and are pessimistic. That said, all the best to your efforts… I always like seeing these initiatives.

By: Gabe Barber

Gabe Barber — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 18:50:57 +0000

I just came across this post and thought I would add my two cents. In January I started a “hyperlocal” site devoted to the literary community within Portland, OR. We are now in Seattle, plan to launch a site in Atlanta this week, and continue to look for editors to set up sites in other locations across the country as well.

While I haven’t quite settled on one particular business model, I think our platform can actually work well for national advertisers. Specifically book publishers looking to promote their newest releases. If they have an author on tour they can essentially promote that book and the authors readings at each stop along the way. This will obviously be more effective the more sites we have set up.

I think that rather than focusing on a specific hyperlocal geographic neighborhood (i.e. Back Bay), the hyperlocal models that will prove fruitful will instead focus on a scalable segment within the larger community (i.e. literary). So if books aren’t your thing, why not focus on Portland Beer, Wine, and Coffee? Or maybe Portland Art? This to me is something that the national advertisers would want to be up against, because the community although still geographic is nonetheless nationally relevant.

All the Best,
Gabe Barber
Founder, Reading Local

By: Pat Kitano

Pat Kitano — Sun, 01 Nov 2009 17:24:10 +0000

Dave, what you say and what you’re doing is consistent with what I believe – national advertisers can’t capitalize on the hyperlocal opportunities.

I agree local merchants will default to the tried and true advertising models in local magazines for presence. I’m saying that social media marketing will eventually reach these merchants as an alternative way to advertise.

You’re a good example of a hyperlocal success story and you’ve implicitly admitted that your business would have a hard time scaling nationally. We’ve worked with a national publishing company that distribute hyperlocal print publications and know that it works. But they are now preparing for the distribution shift when more and more of their information and advertising will be digested online (and it will), so they don’t face what the newspaper industry is going through.

Our perspective is frankly similar; I agree that hyperlocal print won’t go by the wayside because it is a tried and true channel to the local consumer.

And my first job was selling radio time, which I enjoyed very much.

By: Dave Johnson

Dave Johnson — Sun, 01 Nov 2009 14:37:44 +0000

One man’s problem is another man’s opportunity. I publish hyper-local community magazines and the problems you defined are the reasons I am successful. The problem, as I see it, is you are trying to define how hyper local should work within the traditional paradigm. This is exactly why newspapers are failing and why large magazine publishers are falling by the wayside. A new paradigm needs a new perspective and a new strategy. Despite what your article implies, there is a tremendous amount of opportunity in hyper local advertising, be it print, Internet, radio, television or a combination of one or more of the above.
It is true that it is difficult for national advertisers to capitalize on the hyper local advertising movement but, then too, it really isn’t about national advertisers. In fact, we are encouraging our readers to shop and buy locally. As far as viability is concerned, you obviously have never sold advertising at a hyper local level. Merchants are too busy running their businesses. They do not have the time for twitter or Facebook or even updating their own websites for that matter.
As for results, our clients are experiencing unprecedented results. The community has “bought into” our products but with very little effort from us. We are simply giving them what they want “good information about our neighborhoods, our children’s schools, our streets, our blocks”. And, we do it in a positive and uplifting manner which makes our content very appealing to a local world-weary population.
The problem with big business is they don’t know how to operate like and relate with small businesses which is why they will never find success in the hyper local advertising arena.

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By: Pat Kitano

Pat Kitano — Fri, 21 Aug 2009 04:21:45 +0000

Thanks Chris, I frankly didn’t see Topix as building much local traction until your response. It seems Topix is proving to be a national property that can attract hyperlocal participation (and I’m pleased). Your 3,000 editors is a great recruitment initiative that can be potentially leveraged to mobilize the communities around them. Craigslist and Yelp have passed a tipping point to become defacto hyperlocal platforms for classifieds and local reviews, and I think Topix could do so with a few “breakout” cities to show communities the potential of Topix as a news and community destination.

By: Chris Tolles

Chris Tolles — Tue, 18 Aug 2009 18:44:22 +0000

Pat:

Nice piece on hyperlocal. So, we agree that it is really difficult to create community locally on a national basis — However, we have over 5,000 cities and towns where there is meaningful interaction daily.

Check out Corbin KY, Paris Tx, Carruthersville MO, Utica NY — where we are the biggest media property by unique visitors and interaction in the those towns.

We have 140k comments pretty much daily on our site and most of those are local, and not just comments about newspaper articles, but user submitted subjects (eg stories).

We have had the local editor model deployed for over 2 years, with over 3,000 editors signed up — but your initial point seems to be correct, and now we are investigating what we will need to do to make this more interesting, given that the commentary is really where the action is with regard to local community.

Chris Tolles
CEO, Topix

By: Pat Kitano

Pat Kitano — Tue, 18 Aug 2009 02:00:22 +0000

There always has to be a purpose for locals to participate in a hyperlocal website. I think local brand newspapers’ online counterparts should be spearheading the use of Community 2.0, but they have been slow to provide any incentives to participation beyond the “Letters to the Editor” type attraction that article commenting delivers.

Wiki City is on the right track for creating a local social medium for both community purposes and advertising. I did find it hard to find any place on the wiki to list a city business; the problem with wikis is always going to organization.

By: Pat

Pat — Tue, 18 Aug 2009 01:35:30 +0000

I understand the twofold problem, but at http://www.WikiCity.com we have gained considerable national advertiser attention & at the same time, we’ve experienced increased traction with local participation. Our model offers built-in incentives for business owners to shamelessly promote themselves, while at the same time, offering a scalable platform for chronicling local history, sharing news, etc.